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hey is it true that you directed a kid who was already in a rough emotional place to murder one of the most important people in his teammates life? im having a hard time believing this because i know you tried to talk to nimona at least once since then and the level of nerve it would take to do that after what this did to her would be insane! hoping for a clarification thanks
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This certainly is an aggressive way to ask questions.
Do you want the truth? Or do you just want to be angry?
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yeah well im the fangs of the defiant dragons, not the diplomacy department
the ideal would be a truth that makes me less angry, so let's have it
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I don't think the truth will make you any less angry. Truth is a spear, not a warm fuzzy blanket.
The truth: I was told to make him do it.
An expansion on the truth: I am also the fangs of an organization, and I was taught not to question orders.
In hindsight I should have, but everyone is smarter in hindsight.
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told by WHO?
and that sounds like a real nice organization you got there if they just want you to follow orders blindly
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No need for sass, I already know it was an awful organization.
And I don't know who for certain, but by now I can guess it's likely the man in white.
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buddy the whole premise of this conversation is that you played a big and direct part in making a lot of people i care about here suffer a lot, so maybe think about not giving ME sass when im trying to find out what happened here
so
you didnt even talk to them? is that what youre saying?
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I have no intention of 'playing nice' with someone who comes into a conversation throwing their weight around, when they themselves have dirty hands from allowing a child under their care to kill four people.
Five, if you include the innocent person voted out instead of them that one time.
Or do their lives not matter because they're not your friends?
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holy shit dude are you serious right now??
we had no idea that week whod killed satan and a bunch of us were trying really hard to find out so we could keep other teams from doing repeat kills if they didnt have to. i had some suspicions about janeway but he didnt admit to it when i talked to him and the first time i got any confirmation was a message from the dead last week. i had no reason to think he was going to kill this last week because he hadnt done anything since the week i told my team about the quota crap and said there was no benefit to us killing anyone.
and do you know how hard temenos and i busted our asses to be there for danny and keep him alive and help him fix things with his friends when he was an emotional mess after carrying out that damn order YOU gave him, even though hed just murdered my best friend in a really gruesome way?? you dont get to say shit to me about not caring about that kid.
but yeah, i did choose to sacrifice hans instead of someone who was important to a lot of people and who i trusted to keep doing everything in his power to get them through this. it was hypocritical and i felt like crap about it but it was a judgment call and ive always taken responsibility for it.
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You talk too much.
If what you want is to feel justified in your anger, then take it. Hate me for it. I already told Danny I would take the blame for everything, he doesn't deserve to shoulder it.
The sooner all of you finish this and get out of my world, the better.
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yeah kind of seemed like i had to since you had so much wrong information in your head that needed to be corrected
believe me i didnt have fun typing it either
anyway if you told him youd take the blame for it then actually act like youre taking responsibility instead of wallowing in self pity while trying to turn this crap around on everyone else.
we have ALL had a bad time here but YOURE the leaders. just sucks for your team that you never figured out how to be one.
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Well we agree on that at least.
I know how fucked up I am. I never wanted to BE a leader. I CAN'T lead.
You can't just go from 18 years of being treated like a tool and expect to immediately be a good leader.
This all got forced on me and all I could do was try, even though I knew I would fail in the end.
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well, yeah, that sounds like a pretty bad call on the part of... who made you do this exactly?
i guess you couldnt just dissolve your team and let them go join different ones if you knew you werent cut out for it or you wouldve done that. did it have to be 8 teams because of the moons weird murder vibes thing?
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It's one of the first things I tried to do.
Nimona didn't want to be on my team from day 1, and I tried to respect that.
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and who stopped you?
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I couldn't find a way to remove her from my dorm information and transfer her anywhere else.
The option just didn't exist at all, and it's not like we had tech support to call or anything.
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??
i mean couldnt she have just walked out and walked into one of the others? why would you need tech support? aside from keys or whatever i guess
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For keys and official access, yes.
She wouldn't have been able to enter the dorms on her own, see the secret room, or count her points towards Mouse's points.
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uh if that was the only issue i think you probably could have just talked to her and the other team about it
like, someone could just open the door for her and most of us never cared that much about points anyway
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She hasn't been back at the dorms for weeks, I think that counts as 'moving out'.
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well
yeah i know
thats why i dont really understand what the problem was in the first place if she managed to do it unofficially on her own just fine
but more importantly i still dont get who set this whole thing up, like, if you were forced into it then someone had to be doing the forcing, right??
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Ultimately the answer to that is "She made it very clear she didn't want to speak to me, so I didn't approach her and she didn't approach me."
And it was probably the man in white who set this all up, as I said before.
The answers are in the pages everyone keeps finding.
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yeah i know how things have gone with nimona that wasnt really the point but
ok
you said before that the hit you put out on reigen was probably because of that guy but
are you saying now that this ENTIRE THING was all of you leaders completely playing into the white guys plans all along because nobody questioned the weird orders they were getting?? from some mystery source no one tried to look into???
and all of us just got dragged along for the ride??
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This certainly is an aggressive way to ask questions.
Do you want the truth? Or do you just want to be angry?
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yeah well im the fangs of the defiant dragons, not the diplomacy department
the ideal would be a truth that makes me less angry, so let's have it
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I don't think the truth will make you any less angry. Truth is a spear, not a warm fuzzy blanket.
The truth: I was told to make him do it.
An expansion on the truth: I am also the fangs of an organization, and I was taught not to question orders.
In hindsight I should have, but everyone is smarter in hindsight.
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told by WHO?
and that sounds like a real nice organization you got there if they just want you to follow orders blindly
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No need for sass, I already know it was an awful organization.
And I don't know who for certain, but by now I can guess it's likely the man in white.
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buddy the whole premise of this conversation is that you played a big and direct part in making a lot of people i care about here suffer a lot, so maybe think about not giving ME sass when im trying to find out what happened here
so
you didnt even talk to them? is that what youre saying?
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I have no intention of 'playing nice' with someone who comes into a conversation throwing their weight around, when they themselves have dirty hands from allowing a child under their care to kill four people.
Five, if you include the innocent person voted out instead of them that one time.
Or do their lives not matter because they're not your friends?
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holy shit dude are you serious right now??
we had no idea that week whod killed satan and a bunch of us were trying really hard to find out so we could keep other teams from doing repeat kills if they didnt have to. i had some suspicions about janeway but he didnt admit to it when i talked to him and the first time i got any confirmation was a message from the dead last week. i had no reason to think he was going to kill this last week because he hadnt done anything since the week i told my team about the quota crap and said there was no benefit to us killing anyone.
and do you know how hard temenos and i busted our asses to be there for danny and keep him alive and help him fix things with his friends when he was an emotional mess after carrying out that damn order YOU gave him, even though hed just murdered my best friend in a really gruesome way?? you dont get to say shit to me about not caring about that kid.
but yeah, i did choose to sacrifice hans instead of someone who was important to a lot of people and who i trusted to keep doing everything in his power to get them through this. it was hypocritical and i felt like crap about it but it was a judgment call and ive always taken responsibility for it.
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You talk too much.
If what you want is to feel justified in your anger, then take it. Hate me for it. I already told Danny I would take the blame for everything, he doesn't deserve to shoulder it.
The sooner all of you finish this and get out of my world, the better.
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yeah kind of seemed like i had to since you had so much wrong information in your head that needed to be corrected
believe me i didnt have fun typing it either
anyway if you told him youd take the blame for it then actually act like youre taking responsibility instead of wallowing in self pity while trying to turn this crap around on everyone else.
we have ALL had a bad time here but YOURE the leaders. just sucks for your team that you never figured out how to be one.
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Well we agree on that at least.
I know how fucked up I am. I never wanted to BE a leader. I CAN'T lead.
You can't just go from 18 years of being treated like a tool and expect to immediately be a good leader.
This all got forced on me and all I could do was try, even though I knew I would fail in the end.
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well, yeah, that sounds like a pretty bad call on the part of... who made you do this exactly?
i guess you couldnt just dissolve your team and let them go join different ones if you knew you werent cut out for it or you wouldve done that. did it have to be 8 teams because of the moons weird murder vibes thing?
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It's one of the first things I tried to do.
Nimona didn't want to be on my team from day 1, and I tried to respect that.
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and who stopped you?
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I couldn't find a way to remove her from my dorm information and transfer her anywhere else.
The option just didn't exist at all, and it's not like we had tech support to call or anything.
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??
i mean couldnt she have just walked out and walked into one of the others? why would you need tech support? aside from keys or whatever i guess
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For keys and official access, yes.
She wouldn't have been able to enter the dorms on her own, see the secret room, or count her points towards Mouse's points.
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uh if that was the only issue i think you probably could have just talked to her and the other team about it
like, someone could just open the door for her and most of us never cared that much about points anyway
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She hasn't been back at the dorms for weeks, I think that counts as 'moving out'.
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well
yeah i know
thats why i dont really understand what the problem was in the first place if she managed to do it unofficially on her own just fine
but more importantly i still dont get who set this whole thing up, like, if you were forced into it then someone had to be doing the forcing, right??
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Ultimately the answer to that is "She made it very clear she didn't want to speak to me, so I didn't approach her and she didn't approach me."
And it was probably the man in white who set this all up, as I said before.
The answers are in the pages everyone keeps finding.
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yeah i know how things have gone with nimona that wasnt really the point but
ok
you said before that the hit you put out on reigen was probably because of that guy but
are you saying now that this ENTIRE THING was all of you leaders completely playing into the white guys plans all along because nobody questioned the weird orders they were getting?? from some mystery source no one tried to look into???
and all of us just got dragged along for the ride??